The Ship Be Halfway Sinking – Can You Make the Playoffs with 20 losses in two months?

December 27, 2007

At 8-20, the Knicks are a longshot to make the playoffs even in a below average Eastern Conference. The standings say they are 4 1/2 games out of eighth place but that really means little because there are few signs of the team playing above an 8-20 pace. Another 8-20 puts them at 16-40 and if you add in their 8-18, that’s 24-58.

So that being said, here’s a list of teams that had 20 losses in the first two months of a season and how they finished in every 82-game season since 1984-85.

2006-07

Philadelphia 8-22 went 27-23 the rest of the way for 35 wins

New York 13-20 went 20-29 the rest of the way for 33 wins

Charlotte 9-21 went 24-28 the rest of the way for 33 wins

Atlanta 9-20 went 21-32 for 30 wins

Memphis 5-25 went 17-35 for 22 wins

2005-06

Toronto 8-22 went 19-33 for 27 wins

New York 7-21 went 16-38 for 23 wins

Charlotte 10-20 went 16-36 for 26 wins

Atlanta 7-21 went 19-35 for 26 wins

2004-05

Toronto 10-21 went 23-28 for 33 wins

Atlanta 5-23 went 8-46 for 13 wins

New Orleans 2-26 went 16-48 for 18 wins

2003-04

Orlando 8-24 went 13-37 for 21 wins

Washington 8-21 went 17-34 for 27 wins

Chicago 9-21 went 14-38 for 23 wins

Atlanta 9-24 went 19-30 for 28 wins

Cleveland 10-22 went 25-23 for 35 wins

Phoenix 12-20 went 17-33 for 29 wins

2002-03

Cleveland 6-26 went 11-39 for 17 wins

Toronto 8-23 went 16-35 for 24 wins

Chicago 11-20 went 19-32 for 30 wins

Denver 6-24 went 11-41 for 17 wins

Memphis 9-22 went 19-32 for 28 wins

2001-02

Miami 6-23 went 30-23 for 36 wins

Chicago 6-23 went 15-38 for 21 wins

Memphis 9-21 went 14-38 for 23 wins

Houston 9-22 went 19-32 for 28 wins

2000-01

Washington 6-25 went 13-38 for 19 wins

New Jersey 9-21 went 17-35 for 26 wins

Chicago 5-25 went 10-42 for 17 wins

Atlanta 10-20 went 15-37 for 25 wins

Vancouver 8-22 went 15-37 for 23 wins

Golden State 6-20 went 11-45 for 17 wins

LA Clippers 10-21 went 21-30 for 31 wins

1999-2000 

Washington 10-20 went 19-33 for 29 wins

Chicago 2-25 went 15-42 for 17 wins

Vancouver 6-23 went 16-37 for 22 wins

Houston 10-20 went 24-28 for 34 wins

Dallas 9-21 went 31-21 for 40 wins

LA Clippers 9-20 went 6-47 for 15 wins

Golden State 6-23 went 15-40 for 19 wins

1997-98 

Philadelphia 7-21 went 24-30 for 31 wins

Toronto 4-26 went 12-40 for 16 wins

Denver 2-26 went 9-45 for 11 wins

Vancouver 10-20 went 9-54 for 19 wins

Dallas 5-25 went 15-37 for 20 wins

LA Clippers 6-24 went 11-41 for 17 wins

Golden State 7-21 went 12-42 for 19 wins

Sacramento 11-20 went 16-35 for 27 wins

1996-97

Boston 6-21 went 9-46 for 15 wins

Philadelphia 8-20 went 14-40 for 22 wins

Vancouver 6-25 went 8-43 for 14 wins

San Antonio 7-20 went 13-42 for 20 wins

Denver 8-22 went 13-39 for 21 wins

1995-96

Philadelphia 5-22 went 13-42 for 18 wins

Toronto 9-21 went 12-40 for 21 wins

Vancouver 5-25 went 10-42 for 15 wins

Minnesota 7-20 went 19-36 for 26 wins

1994-95

Minnesota 6-21 went 15-40 for 21 wins

LA Clippers 4-25 went 13-40 for 17 wins

1993-94

Washington 8-20 went 16-38 for 24 wins

Milwaukee 8-20 went 12-42 for 20 wins

Dallas 2-24 went 11-45 for 13 wins

Minnesota 8-20 went 12-42 for 20 wins

1992-93 

Washington 8-20 went 14-40 for 22 wins

Dallas 2-22 went 9-49 for 11 wins

1991-92

Orlando 6-23 went 15-38 for 21 wins

Charlotte 8-23 went 23-28 for 31 wins

Minnesota 4-23 went 11-44 for 15 wins

Sacramento 8-20 went 21-33 for 29 wins

1990-91

Miami 8-21 went 16-37 for 24 wins

Denver 6-23 went 14-39 for 20 wins

Orlando 7-23 went 24-27 for 30 wins

Sacramento 6-21 went 19-36 for 25 wins

1989-90 

New Jersey 8-20 went 9-45 for 17 wins

Miami 7-23 went 11-41 for 18 wins

Orlando 9-20 went 9-44 for 18 wins

Charlotte 6-20 went 13-43 for 19 wins

Minnesota 6-23 went 16-37 for 22 wins

Sacramento 7-20 went 16-39 for 23 wins

1988-89

Indiana 5-22 went 23-32 for 28 wins

Miami 3-24 went 12-43 for 15 wins

San Antonio 7-20 went 14-41 for 21 wins

1987-88

New Jersey 5-21 went 14-42 for 19 wins

Sacramento 7-21 went 17-37 for 24 wins

Golden State 4-20 went 16-42 for 20 wins

1986-87 

New York 9-21 went 15-37 for 24 wins

New Jersey 6-20 went 18-38 for 24 wins

San Antonio 8-22 went 20-32 for 28 wins

Sacramento 8-20 went 21-33 for 29 wins

LA Clippers 4-24 went 8-48 for 12 wins

1985-86

New York 7-21 went 16-38 for 23 wins

Indiana 9-21 went 17-35 for 26 wins

Chicago 13-21 went 17-31 for 30 wins and playoffs

Sacramento 9-22 went 28-23 for 37 wins and playoffs

Golden State 12-22 went 18-30 for 30 wins

Seattle 12-20 went 19-31 for 31 wins

LA Clippers 11-21 went 21-29 for 32 wins

1984-85

New York 12-22 went 12-36 for 24 wins

Indiana 8-22 went 14-38 for 22 wins

Cleveland 6-22 went 30-24 for 36 wins and playoffs

Golden State 10-20 went 12-40 for 22 wins


Wow! There have been nearly over 200 coaching changes since Jerry Sloan took over

December 21, 2007

That’s an amazing stat when John Thompson mentioned it on his interview with Utah Jazz coach Jerry Sloan on Inside the NBA. Of course, knowing how my mind works, I wondered about all those changes.

He became the coach on December 9, 1988 and presided over a 97-89 loss to the Dallas Mavericks. It’s nearly impossible to list the exact order of coaching changes but the next best thing would be to do it by team.

Atlanta Hawks – Mike Fratello, Bob Weiss, Lenny Wilkens, Lon Kruger, Terry Stotts, Mike Woodson. (six coaches)
Boston Celtics – Jimmy Rodgers, Chris Ford, ML Carr, Rick Pitino, Jim O’Brien, John Carroll, Doc Rivers (seven)

Charlotte Bobcats – Bernie Bickerstaff, Sam Vincent (two)

Chicago Bulls – Doug Collins, Phil Jackson, Tim Floyd, Bill Berry, Bill Cartwright, Pete Myers, Scott Skiles (seven)

Cleveland Cavaliers – Lenny Wilkens, Mike Fratello, Randy Wittman, John Lucas, Keith Smart, Paul Silas, Brendan Malone, Mike Brown (eight)

Dallas Mavericks – John MacLeod, Richie Adubato, Gar Heard, Quinn Buckner, Dick Motta, Jim Cleamons, Don Nelson, Donn Nelson, Avery Johnson (nine)

Denver Nuggets – Doug Moe, Paul Westhead, Dan Issel, Gene Littles, Bernie Bickerstaff, Dick Motta, Bill Hanzlik, Mike D’Antoni, Dan Issel, Mike Evans, Jeff Bzdelik, Michael Cooper, George Karl (12)

Detroit Pistons – Chuck Daly, Ron Rothstein, Don Chaney, Doug Collins, Alvin Gentry, George Irvine, Rick Carlisle, Larry Brown, Flip Saunders (nine)

Golden State Warriors – Don Nelson, Bob Lanier, Rick Adelman, PJ Carlesimo, Garry St Jean, Dave Cowens, Brian Winters, Eric Musselman, Mike Montgomery, Don Nelson (nine)

Houston Rockets – Don Chaney, Rudy Tomjanovich, Jeff Van Gundy, Rick Adelman (four)

Indiana Pacers – George Irvine, Dick Versace, Bob Hill, Larry Brown, Larry Bird, Isiah Thomas, Rick Carlisle, Jim O’Brien (eight)

Los Angeles Clippers – Gene Shue, Don Casey, Mike Schuler, Larry Brown, Bob Weiss, Bill Fitch, Chris Ford, Jim Todd, Alvin Gentry, Dennis Johnson, Mike Dunleavy (11)

Los Angeles Lakers – Pat Riley, Mike Dunleavy, Randy Pfund, Magic Johnson, Del Harris, Bill Bertka, Kurt Rambis, Phil Jackson, Rudy Tomjanovich, Frank Hamblen, Phil Jackson (10)

Memphis Grizzlies – Brian Winters, Stu Jackson, Brian Hill, Lionel Hollins, Sidney Lowe, Hubie Brown, Lionel Hollins, Mike Fratello, Tony Barone, Marc Iavaroni (nine)

Miami Heat – Ron Rothstein, Kevin Loughery, Alvin Gentry, Pat Riley, Stan Van Gundy, Pat Riley (five)

Milwaukee Bucks – Del Harris, Frank Hamblen, Mike Dunleavy, Chris Ford, George Karl, Terry Porter, Terry Stotts, Larry Krystowiak (eight)

Minnesota Timberwolves – Bill Musselman, Jimmy Rodgers, Sidney Lowe, Bill Blair, Flip Saunders, Kevin McHale, Dwane Casey, Randy Wittman (eight)

New Jersey Nets – Willis Reed, Bill Fitch, Chuck Daly, Butch Beard, John Calipari, Don Casey, Byron Scott, Lawrence Frank (eight)

New Orleans Hornets – Dick Harter, Gene Littles, Allan Bristow, Dave Cowens, Paul Silas, Tim Floyd, Byron Scott (seven)

New York Knicks – Rick Pitino, Stu Jackson, John McLeod, Pat Riley, Don Nelson, Jeff Van Gundy, Don Chaney, Herb Williams, Lenny Wilkens, Herb Williams, Larry Brown, Isiah Thomas (11)

Orlando Magic – Matt Guokas, Brian Hill, Richie Adubato, Chuck Daly, Doc Rivers, Johnny Davis, Chris Jent, Brian Hill, Stan Van Gundy (eight)

Philadelphia 76ers – Jim Lynam, Doug Moe, Fred Carter, John Lucas, Johnny Davis, Larry Brown, Randy Ayers, Chris Ford, Jim O’Brien, Maurice Cheeks (10)

Phoenix Suns – Cotton Fitzsimmons, Paul Westphal, Cotton Fitzsimmons, Danny Ainge, Scott Skiles, Frank Johnson, Mike D’Antoni (six)

Portland TrailBlazers – Mike Schuler, Rick Adelman, PJ Carlesimo, Mike Dunleavy, Maurice Cheeks, Kevin Pritchard, Nate McMillian (seven)

Sacramento Kings – Jerry Reynolds, Dick Motta, Rex Hughes, Garry St. Jean, Eddie Jordan, Rick Adelman, Eric Musselman, Reggie Theus (eight)

San Antonio Spurs – Larry Brown, Bob Bass, Jerry Tarkanian, John Lucas, Rex Hughes, Bob Hill, Gregg Popovich (seven)

Seattle Supersonics – Bernie Bickerstaff, Tom Newell, Bob Kloppenburg, Bernie Bickerstaff, KC Jones, Bob Kloppenburg, George Karl, Paul Westphal, Nate McMillian, Bob Weiss, Bob Hill, PJ Carlesimo (10)

Toronto Raptors – Brendan Malone, Darrell Walker, Butch Carter, Lenny Wilkens, Kevin O’Neill, Sam Mitchell (six)

Washington Wizards – Wes Unseld, Jim Lynam, Bernie Bickerstaff, Jim Brovelli, Darrell Walker, Gar Heard, Leonard Hamilton, Doug Collins, Eddie Jordan (nine)


The Best of Knicks Coach and President Isiah Thomas

December 20, 2007

The New York Times is offering its archives for free since 1985. That gives anyone a chance to look up any topic and read about it. Without further ado, I present the best quotes of the Isiah Thomas era on a monthly basis. Though many of these quotes were made to reporters from multiple media outlets, credit the New York Times archives as the source:

December 2003

12/23 ”Everything in New York is big and the best. ‘Here, we’re trying to win and right away.’

12/24 ”One of the things that I’m evaluating and assessing is what will a New York Knick player look like and what values will he possess and how will he play?”

12/28 ”Winning to me is not a good effort. ‘You either win or lose.”

12/30 ”I think there are different ways to motivate people. I’ve always tried to inspire people instead of trying to manipulate them through fear, because if you’re going to have a long-lasting effect it has to be through true inspiration of that individual wanting to succeed as opposed to I’m going to frighten you to succeed.”

January 2004

1/4 ”He’s got great stuff. ‘His defense stuff is solid, his offensive stuff is exceptional. He’s got a great basketball background. I’m confident if we can put the right things around him from a coaching standpoint, I as a manager can do the right things by him, he can have success here.” – expressing his confidence in Don Chaney

1/5 ”It just made me realize how important that position was to us and how much we needed to go out and acquire a guy like that. ‘You just don’t get a chance to get these superstar players and have them be on your team in this day and age.”- after acquiring Marbury

1/12 ”We’re in the state where I think it would be impossible for me to do both and do them well. ‘We’re trying to get healthy and we got to dig ourselves out of a big hole. And I don’t think I would do this organization justice by trying to do both jobs.” – on if he could coach and be in the front office

1/13 ”You definitely don’t like to see anyone humiliated in such a public forum. It’s a tough time for him as a man.” – on the David Letterman show discussing the status of Don Chaney

1/14 ”We came to the conclusion late this morning. You never thought you would be able to get a Hall of Fame coach to be able to coach a team. Having the opportunity to have the winningest coach in basketball, we pride ourselves on being the best and having the opportunity to select the best. I just think he’s a perfect fit. And I think he’s the perfect fit for Stephon.” – on hiring Lenny Wilkens

1/19 ”He’s a very special player, a very gifted player,” ”And I think, ideally, we would still like to get more athletic and go out and acquire the best talent and get the best players for him to play with. I would like for us to become a much more athletic team, a quicker team.” – more on Marbury

February 2004

2/15 ”The only reason we made the trade was because we got both players. When you add Tim Thomas and Nazr Mohammed to our team, it makes us a much more athletic team. I think we’ve become a better defensive team, a better rebounding team.” – on acquiring Tim Thomas and Nazr Mohammed.

2/15 ”I wanted to put together a team that was exciting for the fans to come and watch, a team that had some character and some guts, but also a team that you can grab a box of popcorn and grab a soda and enjoy the game. ”You want players and you want a team that people want to see. I think this is a team that when everyone is healthy and playing well, it can be an exciting team that people will want to see and talk about.”

March 2004

3/17 ”Lenny and I are on the same page. ‘We talk daily, nightly, hourly. We work well together. I love my team. I love our coach. I love our players. But I want more.” – after he yelled at the Knicks for sucking in an overtime win over Washington

April 2004

4/23 ”This is a starting point for us; we will learn from this experience. You’ve got to be in the playoffs and have some humiliating moments to learn to win.” – following n 81-78 loss to the Nets in Game Three

4/27 ”But I didn’t think it was a good message to send to our fans to say: ‘You know, we haven’t made the playoffs in two years. We’re going to get rid of all the salary and go young, and, you know, by the way, the next three years we aren’t going to make the playoffs because we’re going to be young and rebuilding.”’ – after the Knicks were swept in the playoffs by the Nets.

October 2004

10/1 “After watching the Yankees pour Champagne last night in their locker room, I got really fired up and inspired. “I look at our team, and that’s what we aspire to be. And I’m pretty excited about this year and the possibilities and the chances that we have. I like all the young guys that we have, love the veterans that are coming back. The coaches are enthused. We’ve got a chance to have a really good year, and I’m excited about it.”

10/7 – If he conforms to the Knick ways and he acts accordingly, yeah. Thus far, he’s conformed. Everything’s O.K. if you do what we’re asking you to do. But when you try to do things the way you want to do them, there are issues with that.” – on Shandon Anderson

November 2004

11/9 – “I have no interest in coaching,. I don’t think I’ll ever coach the New York Knicks.”

11/9 – “As long as I’m the president of basketball operations here in New York, I don’t see myself coaching the New York Knicks,” he said. “And I wish you would stop writing it or stop saying it, because that’s not going to happen while I’m here.

11/9 – “I think in other cities, you may be able to pull off G.M.-coach, but I don’t think in this city you can do it, simply because the energy and the passion that it takes to do one job, the way we have to travel, the way we have to live, the complexities of this city. I know, myself, I wouldn’t have the energy to be the president and also the coach.”

December 2004

12/7 “I think he’s in that discussion. I know the thing that the coaches value the most is his work ethic, the way he approaches the game every night and the way he does the dirty work inside the paint. He’s not flashy; he’s effective. He’s just a worker.” – on Nazr Mohammed

12/12 “If you’re not playing for the championship, then you’re not good enough. And my job is to continue to try to make us good enough, so we can compete and try to win the championship one day.”

January 2005

1/4 – “I thought he was awesome, and I happen to agree with him. “When you look at his numbers across the board and what we do when he’s out on the floor, I think he is the best right now.” – on Marbury declaring himself the NBA’s best point guard

1/21 -”It hurts to watch your team lose by 1 and 2 points and get beat at the buzzer and all that But you know what? It’s part of the process. If you want to make quick, rash decisions, then you should go hire somebody else. But if you want sustained growth, in terms of how we’re building it, right now I’m stubborn enough to stick to my plan.”

1/22 – “It’s tough when you lose someone such as Lenny, “What he’s meant to the game of basketball, what he’s done for our organization, and last year when we got together, I think where he’s brought us to, we’re on solid footing. He laid the foundation, he came in and handled it with class and dignity and grace. He did all the right things to get us into the playoffs last year.”

Gathered by Larry Fleisher of InsideHoops.com from the New York Times archives

February 2005

2/9 – “Make no mistake, the man in front of you has been through a lot of tough times,” Thomas said of himself. As he added: “Our best days are in front of us and not in the present. We have to be patient enough to get to that day.” – explaining the 19-30 record

2/24 – “We were able to upgrade our talent in getting Malik Rose and Maurice Taylor. There’s also the addition of the two picks. We have two first-round picks this year and two first-round picks next year. We will be able to improve our team with the youth we’ll get in the draft, or we may be able to package some players and do some other things. This gives us creative ability in the draft.” – on the deals for Malik Rose and Maurice Taylor.

2/24 “Malik is a high-energy player, and the fans are going to enjoy watching him play. “In terms of his salary, a guy like Malik who is making $5 or $6 million a year is worthy of that contract. The two or three additional years that he has, I’m very comfortable paying those numbers. Those are not $12, $13 or $14 million numbers.”

April 2005

4/20 – “I really like what we have. When you’ve lost 30 games by 6 points or less, there’s some hope. So we’re not as far away as our record would indicate.” – the day after the team finished 33-49

4/20 – “The way I feel right now, I’d trade my mother if the right deal came along,” – discussing on how to improve the roster

June 2005

6/28 – “We like Herb Williams as a coach; he did a fine job when he was here. I’m sorry. He did a fine job of coaching the team. But we want to do the best and do the right thing for the New York Knicks, and we’ll be diligent and patient with our approach.” – Thomas jumping the gun on the coaching job.

6/30 – “I don’t think I’ve ever said this to any of you publicly, but last year was really the first time that I’ve ever been associated with a basketball team that was called ’soft’ at certain times. Every team that I’ve ever played on has always been a great defensive team, whether it’s been my high school team, college team or pro team, or the team that I coached in Indiana.” – Thomas on the day he introduced Quentin Richardson, Channing Frye, Nate Robinson and David Lee

July 2005

7/2 – “Any guy that has ‘center’ next to his name, we’re interested in.”- Thomas discussing his search for a free agent center in class that included Stromile Swift and Samuel Dalembert

7/6 – “That is so far from the truth. And I’m ashamed for you guys that you even have to ask me that, because there is absolutely no truth to it at all.” – denying reports that Marbury was available.

7/28 – “Larry has won every place that he’s gone. And make no mistake about it, I think he will work extremely hard to turn this situation around for us.” – introducing Larry Brown as his third coach in nearly two years

November 2005

11/16 – “I like what I’m seeing, I like what we’ve done. Actually, pretty excited about the way we’re playing. – before the Knicks fell to 2-6 with a loss at the LA Lakers

December 2005

12/22 – “We were very competitive out on the road, and I don’t know if there’s a fear of playing at home, but we’ve had some embarrassing losses at home. And it seems that our guys are much more competitive and play with a lot more confidence away from home.” – celebrating his second anniversary on the job by saying the bad crowd reactions in double digits losses negatively impact the team.

February 2006

2/4 – ”I’m not saying this is a move to get to the playoffs or anything like that. Jalen is a person who fits exactly what we need. A very versatile player, he can handle the ball in the backcourt, he can score from the small forward position and he can take some of the scoring load off some of our younger players who have been asked to score at difficult times during the game.” – on acquiring Jalen Rose’s contract from the Raptors.

2/23 – “We feel pretty good about the direction we’re headed,.We’re not happy with the record. However, our future is bright.” – after acquiring Steve Francis

April 2006

4/20 – “I don’t think that our record is indicative of the type of coach that he is or the type of players that we have,” – after the 23-win season ended

Gathered by Larry Fleisher of http://www.insidehoops.com from the New York Times archives

June 2006

6/27 – “I’ve been in pressure situations before.All my life has basically been about pressure, about having to get it done. And just because you say it publicly does not make me afraid of it or shy away from it. You got a job to do, go get it done.” – responding to the mandate by Dolan for significant progress

6/28 – “It’s challenging. I don’t think there’s anybody else in the league or in sports probably working under this situation. However, that’s how it is.” – in response to Dolan’s mandate for significant progress or else (whatever that means)

6/28 – “I’d rather bet on myself. If my career is in the hands of somebody else, trust is not something that I have a lot of these days.” – accepting the challenge of coaching his roster

6/28 – “No, because I stand here before you today in all honesty and I say I would still rather have Eddy Curry than any player in this draft and every G.M. polled would take Eddy Curry in this draft. And if we had the second pick, I would have traded the second pick in the draft for Eddy Curry.” – defending the Eddy Curry trade on draft night

August 8 -

“I spent a lot of time this summer talking to different people about chemistry because one of the things that was written and said and that’s true about us is the chemistry wasn’t right. And what Jared brings to us, more so than talent, he brings chemistry. I think he balances your locker room. He balances the plane ride. Relationshipwise, in a group setting, he’s the chemical piece that makes everything kind of work, in a strange kind of way.” -introducing Jared Jefferies.

October 2006

October 10 – “I knew exactly what I was thinking. I wasn’t looking for Jerome to be an offensive player. I’m more than confident that the things that I want out of him, in terms of defending and rebounding, he’s very capable of doing. And he will do them. If you’re asking him to be a 20-point scorer and you want to judge him on his low-post game, then you’re looking at the wrong guy. But for a $5 million investment, and we didn’t have a center, I know exactly what I was doing. And you should keep that in mind. It’s not $30 million a year, it’s only five. I’m just saying, for centers in this league, backup, starting, whoever, we got a pretty good price there.” – defending his signing of Jerome James

October 13 – “Chances are, when you look at our schedule, we may start out in a hole. And you can’t get so buried in a hole that you lose hope. And you’ve got to have enough intestinal fortitude to fight yourself out of the hole and persevere and overcome the obstacles.” – after the preseason opener

October 25 – “He’s a big man; he’s a nice man. But there needs to come a time when it’s ‘Don’t play with Eddy.’ We want him to really have a presence out on the floor.” – urging Eddy Curry to be more tough on the court.

November 2006

11/4 – “This is an unmerciful league, and we’ll have a long memory. And one day, we’ll be the team that’s on top, doing the kicking and the stepping, And when we kick and we step, if we ever get to the top, it’s going to be a hard kick and a hard step, just like people have stepped on us pretty hard. We’ll be pretty unforgiving when we get on top.” – referring to how the Pacers celebrated their 109-95 win in the home opener

11/6 – “I was looking for a few good men,” – after using reserves to get his team back in a game against the Spurs and putting 42 million in salary on the bench.

December 2006

12/16 – “Hey, don’t go to the basket right now. It wouldn’t be a good idea.Just letting you know.” – his apparent threat to Carmelo Anthony that sparked the brawl heard around the world

12/27 – “Our crowd had a huge impact on the game tonight. “Being at home definitely has again become very comfortable to us. We like to play here now. It’s a good feeling when the Garden puts its arms around you.” – after a 151-145 three OT win over Detroit

12/29 “They’re a beautiful basketball team. The way they move, the way they pass, the way they cut, they’re good. One day, again, the goal is to try to get to that kind of level of play.” – correctly describing the Suns after a blowout loss

January 2007

1/3 – “This is a big win for us. “This whole season, every time it seems like we are at death’s door the team responds and gets a win.

“Who knows maybe this will turn out to be a very lucky season for us.” – after a 99-81 win in Portland

1/10 – “I think we’ve gotten to a point where we’re not looked at as one of those teams that you’re supposed to beat. I know we’ve gotten better as a basketball team, and I know next month we’ll be better than we are this month. But we’ve gotten to the level where I think we’re starting to get some respect around the league, that it’s not a ‘gimme’ anymore.” – before a 13-point home win over the 76ers
Gathered by Larry Fleisher of www.insidehoops.com from the New York Times archives

February 2007

2/6 – “I never thought we would see .500 at home,” after a win over the Clippers improved the Knicks to 13-13 at home.

2/26 – “It’d be nice if the godfather anointed him also,” – looking for Shaq to respect Eddy Curry

March 2007

3/18 – “I’m not a drug addict, but he’s my No. 1 drug,.“If it got close, that’s the button that I’ll push. I can’t help it. It’s like I’m Pavlov’s dog.” – after a rare blowout win allowed Curry to rest.

April 2007

4/19 – “You may look at the record. But I don’t think there’s a team out there that walks in saying, ‘This is an easy night for us.’ You can’t say that wasn’t the case all the time. I don’t think that will be again.” – reflecting on the 2006-07 season

June 2007

6/13 – ”I’m kind of hoping we don’t embarrass ourselves too much,’ – when the Knicks announced an exhibition game with Maccabi Tel Aviv

6/29 – “It’s safe to say that the ball will be in one of their hands most every time down the court. We’ll throw the ball inside. Either it will be in Eddy’s hands on one side or it will be in Zach’s hands on the other. The thing that’s intriguing about Zach is he can step out. He has a great midrange game.” – discussing the acquisition of Zach Randolph.

October 2007

October 11 – “I don’t think any of us received a warm reaction tonight. Whatever reaction that happens to me or for me, I’m a big boy. I’ve handled and conducted myself well, and I’ve been yelled at, screamed at, booed at. And I know how to handle myself. I’ll be fine, thank you.” – after most of the Macabbi Tel Aviv fans booed him at MSG

October 22 – ”I think players are starting to pick up their intensity as we get closer to the season,” – after a preseason victory over Boston.

November 2007 (It gets good here…)

November 2 – “This is a year where the best people play” – after benching Marbury in the season opener

November 13 – “We need leadership from that position at the point guard, and we also need defense. And those are two things that he’s definitely capable of doing. And when he returns, that’s what I expect out of him.” – explaining his decision to bench Marbury.

November 14 – “We’ll keep that in-house” – whether Marbury’s absence was excused or unexcused.

November 16 – “I’ve played with people I don’t like; I’ve won with people I don’t like,” – on welcoming Marbury back and comparing it to his playing career in Detroit

November 21 – “That’s on Isiah tonight. You never want to see this type of display of basketball, anywhere. And that’s on my desk. That’s on me.” – after his team made 29 turnovers in a 108-82 drubbing by the Warriors.

November 24 – “In New York, you’re either dead or alive. You lose a game and you’re dead, and you win one and you basically get to survive.” – after a win over the Bulls

November 26 – “He’s self-driven and he’s self-motivated, so you don’t have to get on him too often. But you do have to remind him sometimes of how good he should be, and don’t let him accept where he is.” – referring to Marbury after a win over Utah
November 29 – “I thought every single player was thinking about himself, as opposed to thinking about the team. I don’t know where this game came from.” – after a 104-59 loss in Boston on national TV.

November 30 – “Every time you lose a game in New York, we’re on death row here. So tonight they unstrapped the belts and I get to walk. And had we lost, I’m sure they’d have wet me down.” – after a 91-88 win over the Milwaukee Bucks in which the Knicks rallied from 17 points down.

December 2007

December 8 – “We had a rough start, but we’re starting to stabilize here.” – an hour before the Sixers rebounded and laughed their way to a 105-77 victory at MSG.

December 8 “I don’t really think this is a time to threaten anyone. I think it’s a time for me to get my team feeling good about themselves again and build their confidence up and get them back to trusting and loving each other and being a team.” – after that same loss.

December 10 -”It’s the fans’ fault because they don’t have a good sixth man,” – speaking to season ticket holder Mara Altschuler.

December 10 “I was just trying to make sure that we kept the team together and we stayed focused on what we were doing, in trying to win a basketball game. Our fans are great. They support us and they show up and we’re glad they’re here. – attempting to downplay the conversation with the fan following a loss to the Dallas Mavericks.

December 11 “To me, it’s win or die. And I literally mean death. I don’t mean walk away. I mean death. That’s how I approach it. And we got a job to do here, we’re going to get it done. I’m confident we got the right players, I’m confident we got the right people, and we’ll dig our way out of this.

December 14 – “There’s certain things that he probably won’t ever be good at doing,” Thomas said. “We want to just make sure that he keeps doing the things that he knows how to do well.” – admitting that Eddy Curry might not be good at some important things like defending, rebounding and shot blocking

December 17 – “There are a lot of things that can be said about me and teams that I’ve coached and the way I played,” Thomas said Monday night, “but I’ve never been accused of not having heart or competing. And tonight was very discouraging to me because we didn’t collectively play with heart and compete like I know I do.”

December 17 – “We don’t have the grit to sustain a run. A team makes a run at us and collectively we just cave. We just give in.”

December 17 – “I can give you a lot of things, but I can’t give you pride and heart.” He said he looked forward to the day when the questions would be about what he did wrong strategically, and not “about heart and courage.”

December 18 “I’m not happy about where we are. And if we don’t turn it around soon, then yeah, we’ll have to make some changes.” – after totally ripping his players for their 119-92 loss to Indiana


My NBA recaps

November 16, 2007

What do Jamal Crawford and I have in common?  Obviously it’s not basketball ability but it’s the fact that we both have really good memories, which is why I was able to piece together what I think is a complete list of NBA recaps I wrote for SportsTicker from 2001-2004.  I used the game logs at database basketball. Being one of the younger guys in the place at the time, I worked overnights which means a lot of the late nights were spent watching Clippers and Warriors basketball and being young also meant doing some of the worst matchups in the league or Games of the Weak as one co-worker used to put it.  So if you’ve read this far, here is the list to the best of my memory.

1   10-30-2001 – Boston 108, Cleveland 89
2   10-30-2001 – Denver 99, Phoenix 96
3   11-03-2001 – Sacramento 106, Denver 94
4   11-03-2001 – Orlando 99, Cleveland 69
5   11-05-2001 – LA Clippers 109, Atlanta 86
6   11-06-2001 – Sacramento 115, Cleveland 99
7   11-06-2001 – Phoenix 113, Memphis 101
8   11-10-2001 – Toronto 117, Utah 96
10  11-13-2001 – Cleveland 107, Minnesota 103
11  11-13-2001 – Denver 101, Chicago 93
12  11-14-2001 – Chicago 102, LA Clippers 106
13  11-15-2001 – Portland 101, Memphis 85
14  11-17-2001 – Cleveland 93, Memphis 98
15  11-17-2001 – Indiana 98, Detroit 104
16  11-18-2001 – Toronto 87, Phoenix 81
17  11-20-2001 – New York 94, Golden State 70
18  11-20-2001 – Seattle 105, Dallas 97
19  11-20-2001 – Detroit 88, Toronto 84
20  11-22-2001 – Milwaukee 78, Toronto 75
21  11-25-2001 – LA Lakers 105, Denver 98
22  11-26-2001 – Phoenix 111, Utah 104 (OT)
23  11-26-2001 – Detroit 105, Orlando 100
24  11-27-2001 – Boston 84, Miami 83
25  11-27-2001 – Golden State 106, Dallas 116
26  11-27-2001 – Milwaukee 85, LA Lakers 104
27  12-02-2001 – Milwaukee 83, Seattle 97
28  12-05-2001 – Denver 80, Boston 95
29  12-05-2001 – San Antonio 120, Atlanta 112
30  12-05-2001 – Dallas 94, LA Lakers 98
31  12-06-2001 – Charlotte 95, Portland 89
32  12-08-2001 – Washington 102, Dallas 95
33  12-08-2001 – Philadelphia 83, Memphis 92
34  12-08-2001 – Denver 99, Cleveland 109
35  12-09-2001 – Miami 88, Sacramento 95
36  12-16-2001 – Detroit 77, LA Clippers 82
37  12-22-2001 – Minnesota 95, Chicago 74
38  12-22-2001 – Detroit 89, Seattle 117
39  12-22-2001 – Golden State 105, Denver 101
40  12-23-2001 – Phoenix 101, Sacramento 133
41  12-26-2001 – LA Lakers 90, Golden State 101
42  12-26-2001 – Phoenix 97, Houston 91
43  12-26-2001 – Indiana 89, Orlando 82
44  12-28-2001 – Memphis 91, Miami 86
45  12-28-2001 – Minnesota 111, Sacramento 125
46  12-30-2001 – Boston 94, Sacramento 109
47  12-30-2001 – San Antonio 83, Memphis 79
48  12-31-2001 – Miami 89, Indiana 87
49  01-04-2002 – Indiana 92, San Antonio 82
50  01-04-2002 – LA Clippers 82, Denver 80
51  01-04-2002 – Orlando 106, New Jersey 96
52  01-09-2002 – Atlanta 87, Charlotte 111
53  01-10-2002 – Portland 92, Miami 85
54  01-10-2002 – Cleveland 91, Denver 96
55  01-11-2002 – Washington 86, Milwaukee 105
56  01-12-2002 – Indiana 102, Dallas 111
57  01-12-2002 – Charlotte 76, Detroit 104
58  01-12-2002 – Memphis 97, Utah 95
59  01-16-2002 – Seattle 80, Utah 95
60  01-18-2002 – Houston 104, Boston 101
61  01-29-2002 – Chicago 90, Phoenix 91
62  01-29-2002 – LA Clippers 117, Dallas 100
63  01-29-2002 – Cleveland 114, Minnesota 81
64  01-30-2002 – Atlanta 71, Detroit 88
65  02-01-2002 – San Antonio 83, Miami 88
66  02-01-2002 – Charlotte 73, Houston 72
67  02-17-2002 – Atlanta 100, Golden State 94
68  02-17-2002 – Dallas 105, Phoenix 92
69  02-19-2002 – Atlanta 79, Sacramento 99
70  02-21-2002 – Atlanta 79, Portland 94
71  02-24-2002 – Seattle 101, Toronto 92
72  02-25-2002 – LA Clippers 90, Memphis 77
73  02-28-2002 – Indiana 100, Phoenix 107 (OT)
74  03-03-2002 – Milwaukee 101, Cleveland 91
75  03-03-2002 – Orlando 102, Washington 107 (OT)
76  03-06-2002 – Miami 92, Chicago 87
77  03-07-2002 – New York 93, Denver 104
78  03-07-2002 – Indiana 111, Memphis 122
79  03-10-2002 – New York 103, LA Lakers 117
80  03-10-2002 – LA Clippers 95, Cleveland 78
81  03-11-2002 – Sacramento 107, Chicago 103
82  03-13-2002 – Houston 96, Minnesota 95
83  03-15-2002 – Boston 103, Memphis 97
84  03-15-2002 – Washington 103, Seattle 98
85  03-17-2002 – Dallas 103, Los Angeles Lakers 105
86  03-19-2002 – New York 101, Memphis 92
87  03-19-2002 – Atlanta 102, Chicago 96
88  03-21-2002 – Detroit 95, Phoenix 82
89  03-24-2002 – Houston 116, Golden State 104
90  03-25-2002 – Denver 84, New York 83
91  03-25-2002 – Cleveland 96, Phoenix 102
92  03-28-2002 – Toronto 85, Atlanta 83
93  03-28-2002 – Cleveland 91, Utah 112
94  03-30-2002 – Golden State 99, Memphis 105
95  04-04-2002 – Indiana 94, Atlanta 95
96  04-04-2002 – Minnesota 87, Denver 88
97  04-05-2002 – Hoston 81, Memphis 99
98  04-06-2002 – Washington 88, Memphis 85
99  04-08-2002 – Boston 100, Chicago 105
100 04-08-2002 – Cleveland 111, Indiana 99
101 04-14-2002 – Indiana 86, Washington 80
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102 10-30-2002 – Phoenix 73, Seattle 86
103 10-30-2002 – Denver 77, Minnesota 83
104 10-30-2002 – Orlando 100, Miami 86
105 11-11-2002 – Minnesota 75, San Antonio 91
106 11-13-2002 – Minnesota 98, New Orleans 102 (maybe)
107 11-22-2002 – Milwaukee 95, Golden State 91
108 11-25-2002 – New Orleans 87, Philadelphia 108
109 11-29-2002 – Milwaukee 91, Detroit 96
110 11-30-2002 – Atlanta 92, Orlando 117
111 12-03-2002 – Denver 89, Golden State 110
112 12-06-2002 – Denver 77, Sacramento 98
113 12-06-2002 – Indiana 81, Denver 92
114 12-15-2002 – New Orleans 92, Sacramento 107
115 12-15-2002 – Philadelphia 97, Indiana 107
116 12-18-2002 – New Orleans 106, Golden State 111
117 12-21-2002 – Indiana 103, Chicago 110
118 12-22-2002 – Golden State 88, Sacramento 103
119 12-22-2002 – Utah 103, Memphis 74
120 12-28-2002 – Golden State 99, LA Clippers 92
121 12-28-2002 – LA Lakers 112, Denver 93
122 12-31-2002 – Indiana 89, New Orleans 86
123 01-04-2003 – Utah 86, Minnesota 93
124 01-05-2003 – New Orleans 99, Toronto 84
125 01-06-2003 – Miami 85, Golden State 99
126 01-06-2003 – Milwaukee 106, Cleveland 94
127 01-12-2003 – Miami 81, LA Lakers 106
128 01-12-2003 – Utah 99, Phoenix 107
129 01-17-2003 – Minnesota 98, Golden State 107
130 01-17-2003 – Cleveland 80, Denver 97
131 01-29-2003 – Washington 78, New Jersey 86
132 01-31-2003 – New Orleans 72, New Jersey 89
133 01-31-2003 – Phoenix 98, LA Clippers 92
134 02-01-2003 – New Jersey 84, Detroit 106
135 02-04-2003 – LA Clippers 92, New York 105
136 02-11-2003 – LA Clippers 107, Phoenix 106
137 02-12-2003 – Washington 108, LA Clippers 104
138 02-22-2003 – Atlanta 89, LA Clippers 87
139 02-23-2003 – Atlanta 93, Golden State 115
140 02-24-2003 – Utah 92, Memphis 103
141 02-28-2003 – LA Clippers 103, Portland 109
142 02-28-2003 – New Orleans 94, Denver 88
143 03-07-2003 – Sacramento 108, Utah 105
144 03-07-2003 – LA Clippers 83, Boston 72
145 03-08-2003 – Utah 77, Dallas 101
146 03-14-2003 – Chicago 91, Houston 121
147 03-14-2003 – Dallas 116, Golden State 114
148 03-19-2003 – Cleveland 101, Memphis 128
149 03-19-2003 – Utah 99, Phoenix 86
150 03-23-2003 – Houston 108, Sacramento 109
151 03-28-2003 – Dallas 95, Portland 112
152 04-01-2003 – Seattle 101, Chicago 94 (OT)
153 04-02-2003 – San Antonio 105, Memphis 87
154 04-03-2003 – Utah 93, Portland 88
155 04-03-2003 – Sacramento 93, Boston 92
156 04-06-2003 – Utah 82, Seattle 80
157 04-06-2003 – LA Lakers 115, Phoenix 113
158 04-11-2003 – Dallas 92, Utah 95
159 04-11-2003 – Detroit 89, New Orleans 93
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160 10-31-2003 – Boston 93, Memphis 91
161 11-01-2003 – Chicago 68, Milwaukee 98
162 11-17-2003 – Portland 98, Dallas 105
163 11-17-2003 – Washington 106, Atlanta 97
164 11-19-2003 – Golden State 83, Houston 85
165 11-23-2003 – Portland 72, Golden State 78
166 11-24-2003 – Indiana 89, Orlando 78
167 11-24-2003 – Houston 105, LA Clippers 90
168 12-01-2003 – San Antonio 83, LA Clippers 91
169 12-01-2003 – Indiana 89, Phoenix 82
170 12-01-2003 – Milwaukee 87, Chicago 97
171 12-09-2003 – New York 90, LA Lakers 98
172 12-16-2003 – Milwaukee 106, Portland 99
173 12-17-2003 – Milwaukee 83, LA Clippers 93
174 12-20-2003 – Cleveland 95, Chicago 87
175 12-20-2003 – Memphis 89, New Orleans 94
176 12-20-2003 – Houston 87, Phoenix 102
177 12-25-2003 – Dallas 111, Sacramento 103
178 12-25-2003 – Houston 97, LA Lakers 87
179 12-28-2003 – Golden State 79, Denver 103
180 12-28-2003 – Philadelphia 92, Phoenix 100
181 12-28-2003 – Portland 74, Cleveland 86
182 01-15-2004 – Miami 85, Utah 97
183 01-16-2004 – Miami 87, LA Clippers 85
184 01-21-2004 – New Jersey 76, San Antonio 99
185 01-21-2004 – Orlando 102, Milwaukee 113
186 01-23-2004 – San Antonio 86, Phoenix 84
187 01-23-2004 – Dallas 106, Chicago 93
188 01-23-2004 – Washington 89, Boston 100
189 02-06-2004 – Denver 87, Golden State 96
190 02-06-2004 – Detroit 81, New Orleans 92
191 02-07-2004 – Detroit 108, Dallas 111
192 02-07-2004 – Houston 86, Atlanta 77
193 02-17-2004 – Utah 85, Miami 97
194 02-17-2004 – Orlando 104, Milwaukee 127
195 02-21-2004 – Memphis 105, Chicago 98
196 02-21-2004 – Seattle 92, Golden State 94
197 02-21-2004 – Denver 81, Miami 97
198 02-25-2004 – Detroit 107, Chicago 88
199 02-26-2004 – Chicago 87, Washington 95
200 02-26-2004 – San Antonio 91, Dallas 115
201 02-26-2004 – Sacramento 103, LA Lakers 101
202 03-02-2004 – Seattle 96, Dallas 107
203 03-05-2004 – Cleveland 88, New Orleans 85
204 03-07-2004 – Indiana 103, Denver 94
205 03-07-2004 – Detroit 86, Seattle 65
206 03-12-2004 – Denver 117, Milwaukee 111
207 03-12-2004 – Seattle 74, Miami 82
208 03-15-2004 – Orlando 110, LA Lakers 113
209 03-17-2004 – Orlando 85, Golden State 110
210 03-17-2004 – Utah 81, Toronto 85
211 03-19-2004 – Houston 84, Golden State 90
212 03-19-2004 – Seattle 91, New Orleans 80
213 03-19-2004 – Chicago 96, Toronto 91
214 03-21-2004 – Orlando 67, Seattle 84
215 03-27-2004 – Denver 83, Utah 85
216 03-27-2004 – Seattle 108, Portland 115 (OT)
217 03-29-2004 – Washington 95, Phoenix 101
218 03-29-2004 – Chicago 96, Miami 105
219 03-30-2004 – Indiana 86, Milwaukee 95
220 04-02-2004 – LA Lakers 97, Seattle 86
221 04-05-2004 – Memphis 81, Utah 92
222 04-12-2004 – Houston 111, Seattle 107
223 04-12-2004 – Milwaukee 89, Cleveland 93
224 04-14-2004 – Seattle 118, LA Clippers 97


Collapse or Win – Warriors vs. Pistons final seven plus minutes and Knicks-Clippers final minute

November 15, 2007

Can the Warriors get that elusive win?  After seeing enough bad shots being hoisted by the Knicks, it was time to see if the Warriors can hold off the Pistons.  It’s a six-point lead for Golden State, which according to the color guy have shown some character.  So away we go:

6:47 – Rasheed Wallace, who once got into a fight here with the Blazers, hits two, 96-92

Golden State walks it up, nearly turns it over.  Azibukie can’t get set against the zone and Rip Hamilton scores on the other end, 96-94

Davis with another unsteady drive that misses and Biedrins gets called for the foul. It looks like the zone is on lockdown now for the Pistons.

Wallace in the left block, turns and shoots 96-96.

They swing it and Monta Ellis travels on a dribble drive, looks like winning time for the Pistons.

Coming out of a timeout and we have 5:33 to play.

Wallace gets doubled, distributes but Murray missed dunk. Wallace on the right block, no rotation, 98-96 Pistons.

ball is swung around and then inside to Baron Davis for the foul.  Free throws for Davis, takes a breath and misses the first and gets the second, 98-97 4:40 remaining.

Into Wallace again, backs down turns and misses and the biggest rebound of the season for Ellis off a Harrington block out, 98-97 4:27 left.

Clank goes the Azibuke three and the zone remains on lockdown.  There comes the Wallace three, 101-97.

Harrington spots in the corner and hits for three, 101-100.

Into Wallace again and a touch foul. Would you double Rasheed is the key question and the answer is it’s easier said than done? First foul shot goes in, second one goes, 103-100.

From disinterested to fourth quarter scoring maching. Kick out for Ellis three no good, offensive rebound but a missed jumper off the elbow.  The Pistons are content to run this Wallace back in all night.

Scattered break, harrington misses but the Warriors finally finish it inside, 103-102.

Now the Warriors showing some D and Baron Davis draws the offensive foul on Flip Murray, 2:20 left.

Back to the action.  Warriors walk it up. Davis passs to Biedrins to Azibuke and he can’t finish, 103-102.

Davis now on Prince and the baby hook goes right in, 105-102.

A good three attempt for Harrington, meaning he had time to set his feet and it misses.

Murray nice entry pass to Maxiell, who is hammered by Biedrins.  Good move as Maxiell is a 52 percent free throw shooter.  First one is good, he exhales and makes the second, 107-102, 1:15.

Must score here (duh).  And a fadeaway is not even close.  The bags are close to getting packed here as Biedrins fall into the dance team, 107-102, 41.1.

If the Warriors lose, they will have blown a game in which they led for over 42 minutes.  That’s awful as Prince scores again, 109-102 and 22-6 in the last six minutes.

Davis decides to do it own and goes for the easy layup, 109-104 with 32.1 seconds.

ok the hell with this, 79-77 Clippers with a minute to go.  Can the Knicks pull this out?

As I tune in, Cassell tries to reprise his role with the Rockets and hit a dagger three and Dunleavy is pissed.  Marbury brings it up, into Zach and the play goes back to Marbury who misses the open three.  Mobley comes back and does what Cassell couldn’t do despite Thomas’ insistence that it was a carry and he shakes off Marbury and hits an eight-footer 81-77.

And we come back from the timeout, Crawford with the side inbounds, Randolph to Jones on a backdoor. Jones gets hacked by Ross and here come the biggest free throws of the season for the Knicks.  Jones takes a few dribles and the first one goes on.  Richardson in for defense and Marbury.  Robinson and Jefferies come in also for Randolph and Curry.  And now the second shot, it goes in 81-79.

Full court press and Jefferies fouls Kaman.  Another inbound and Isiah is yelling “Get Up”.  Maggette inbounds to Mobley and they actually attempt the steal before fouling.  Mobley gets two free throws and makes the first.  The second is short, Richardson rebounds and calls timeout, 82-79 18.4 seconds remaining.

Three or quick two?  What to do?  I say two and maybe get fouled.

I’m guessing to Randolph for the first option.  Crawford with the side inbounds to Marbury off top and he misses, Zach’s tip-in fails, scramble but Knicks retain possession.  Final timeout, 82-79, 11.1 seconds remaining.

Play looks like it’s for Marbury. Richardson inbounds to Marbury, who drives  and the layup is banked in, 82-81, seven seconds in.  Maggette is a great foul shooter and the first goes in.  This is the big one says Kenny Smith (Duh).  Maggette leans in and makes the second.

Curry to Crawford for three off the mark and that’s your ballgame.  Knicks are 2-5.  Crawford got a decent look but might have dribbled a little too much.


Connections and Storylines for a Tuesday

November 13, 2007

Boston @ Indiana – The last time Boston was 6-0 was way back on November 15, 1987. They reached that point with a 103-98 win at Market Square Arena. Larry Bird scored 11 of his 24 points in the first quarter and the Celtics made 10 of their 13 shots.

But of more recent history is that they’ll be facing the last coach that won a playoff series for the Celtics and that was Jim O’Brien, who in 2003 guided the Celtics to the Eastern Conference semifinals. O’Brien stepped down just as Danny Ainge took over and dealt away players such as Antoine Walker and Eric Williams for the likes of Raef LaFrentz and Ricky Davis.

As for the present, the 5-0 start has seen the Celtics win by an average of 16.6 points – a figure that would be larger if not for a three-point win in Toronto. They have had six quarters in which they have outscored the opponent by double digits.

As for the Pacers, their present three-game losing streak makes that 3-0 start seem like a thing of the past. They were last seen coughing up a 25-point lead and losing 113-106 to the Nuggets and they’ve also seen Danny Granger’s drop as he is 18-of-50 and 0-of-13 from three-point range in his last three contests. The loss to Denver came a night after they blew an eight-point lead and gave up 20-2 run in Charlotte.

Seattle @ Orlando – If the Sonics had been able or wanted to re-sign Rashard Lewis, they might have had a win or two. They take an 0-7 mark into this and have never been 0-8. So what do they plan on doing to combat the losing, especially after coming within four points of the Detroit Pistons Sunday night. I do not know just yet but from someone who saw the game, the Sonics played well enough against teams not named the Pistons. Five of Seattle’s seven losses have been by single digits so maybe the laws of statistics could be in their favor.

As for Orlando, the Magic are 5-2 with Lewis, who is averaging 20.2 points and one of the many long-range shooters that pace a team that has four games with at least 10-pointers. Their defense is far from being perfect as Stan Van Gundy said it was a bunch of things, especially pertaining to the low post the other night in New York when I asked him.

Another thing to expect if you’re defending the Magic is that they will keep shooting. If 10 misfire, they figure the 11th will go in and chances are Dwight Howard will grab a majority of those misses although he might have some problems if Chris Wilcox and Nick Collision are on the court on the same time. They make the Sonics one of eight teams with two players averaging eight rebounds .

Miami @ Charlotte – Now that Miami has won for the first time since April 13, they can begin the season. Taking this back-to-back with Charlotte and Seattle might be very important because a back-to-back with Boston and New Jersey is next. The Heat are the worst team in the league when it comes to scoring at 84.5 points but if they can get the Bobcats to cave into the slow, plodding halfcourt style they can and probably win this. That’s among the things they did in New York in a 75-72 win. They also came back from six down in the final six-plus minutes, holding the Knicks to one basket and no points in the final 2 1/2 minutes. They also have been getting the big time blue collar effort from Udonis Haslem, who resembled many of the players that Pat Riley used to coach in New York with his 16-point, 16 rebound showing. That’s my unscientific analysis of the Heat, here’s some scientific analysis

As for Charlotte, they’ve never been this good this late in a season. Last year it took the Bobcats 14 games to get to four victories, in 2005-06 it was 12 games and in 2004-05 it was also 14. They already have an 90-88 win over Miami and that was a game they nearly lost. But of course like many teams that have yet to consistently win, late-game execution can be a problem like it was in Sunday’s 85-82 loss to Houston. They were up five heading into the fourth and up seven with 6:05 remaining. The teams like the Pistons, Spurs, Suns usually expand that lead to double-digits while the losing or inconsistent teams blow it or make it tough and that’s what happened. They allowed the Rockets to hang in there and they eventually took the lead and the superstar got the call when Tracy McGrady got a call against Gerald Wallace in the waning seconds.

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Rise With Us – It’s the Portland Trail Blazers home opener

November 8, 2007

This game has been anticipated in Portland for a while and just like the marketing slogan suggests “See What We Can Do”.  So when they come back from the commercial I’m going to see what they actually can do in the home opener against the Hornets.  Hopefully I’ll be around at the end because it will be a good game.

A message from upper management gets it started and wow they’re pulling out all the stops with a little pregame jam from the O’Jays with the hook that you’ve got to give the people what they want.  Um, I think they want some NBA action, actually this intro somewhat catchy and there goes the “Rise With Us” Banner into the rafters.

And we’re ready for action and the Blazers win the tap and miss their first shot.  Blake is on Paul ad the Hornets go to David West early, who gets the hoop and foul on Channing Frye. Anyway I took a few possessions off and the Blazers run then slow it down and Aldridge misses but Roy hustles for the board but Blake misses and Peterson rebounds it for the Hornets and that was too easy for Chandler, 5-5.

Roy from the elbow off a sagging defense under the pick off a pick and roll, 7-5.

Great defense on Peja by Webster, couldnt’ get space on the bump back and the first Zach Randolph mention.  The analyst points out how good a rebounder he he is saying how much the offensive rebounding and second-chance points are missed.  Now it’s 9-7 Hornets but Aldridge with a smooth jumper off the right elbow, 9-9.

West has already started the possession five times and the three-point play makes it 12-9. Frye top of the key miss and a Chandler rebound.  Foul on Aldridge and the announcers are pissed as Chandler knocked Aldridge’s hands away but Peja misses a fast break slows down double on Roy to an open Webster, nobody there to rebound the quick release.  Chandler throws an elbow on Aldridge and the third foul on Aldridge but a Paul three is short and Paul gets the rebound, time to set but Peja misses the three.  Roy with the top of the key jumper and Paul gets the rebound.

West goes up and under through a double team and it’s 14-9 and a we have a timeout with 5:40 remaining as Portland can’t get that important second chance on its offensive sets while presenting an ineffective double team.

This could be dangerous with Aldridge on the bench but Webster gets the pick for a long two.  He’s running off double picks on both sides and on that one was wide open, 14-11.  Coming off a turnover Webster gets another good pick for another long two, 14-13.  West goes into a double team resets and hits a jumper, 16-13.  Outlaw sets up inside the line 16-15. Chandler gets a hard foul from Outlaw (rightfully so after what he got away with earlier).  Sub – Jack comes in for Steve Blake and Chandler misses the second, 17-15

Another step back from Webster over Peja, they can do that all night 17-17.  Outlaw misses and Bobby Jackson into Peja, who is forced off balance by Roy and West misses, Peja pokes it away from a too eager Outlaw and we slow it down, two fakes for Peja but he sets and misses and West goes through everyone and scores, 19-17.  Chandler goes 1-on-1 and fouls Przybilla.  Time for a commercial with 2:15 remaining.  Chandler also got a technical foul for dropping the ball back to the action, Pryzbilla exploits his matchup with Hilton Armstrong and does a drop step and is now 8-for-9 from the line, 21-19 Portland. West gets in thanks to some late help defense, 21-21.

Anyway back to the action, Portland is doing a decent job so far with Aldridge on the bench with three fouls.  A Przybilla put back makes it 26-23 Portland.

Rodriguez starts the second and the ball gets tipped out of bounds.  Near-turnover but Jack recovers but then Jackson knocks down Rodriguez and goes in for the hoop, 26-25. Melvin Ely, you can run your offense against him and Outlaw dumps it into Przybilla, who is a foul shooting machine now and he hits both, 30-25 Portland.

Ely gives it up to Jackson a wild shot over Outlaw is not even close and Jack steps in for a transition jumper.  Ely starts the possession but Pargo strokes the jumper from the line.  A pick and roll with Przybilla and Jack results in a reset of the possession and Rodriguez misses a three. Chandler kicks it out to Jackson for the missed three and Ely pushes his man, 30-27 Portland.  Another rebound for Przybilla and the loose ball goes off Jackson and a loose-ball foul on the Hornets brings us into the break.

Back to the action and Roy crossover on Butler and Chandler is short. chandler backs down his man and misses the fade and Jack thinks three, steps in for two 32-27.   Another high pick and roll and Rodriguez gets by everyone for a kick to Roy for the missed three.  Paul dumps it to Chandler and Joel fouls him before taking a seat, 32-29. McMillian picks LaFrentz over Frye for that substitution by the way and Jack with a behind the back dribble and tries for the high arching layup but misses.  The Blazers have gone zone and three seconds for the Hornets.  Roy right down the middle, absorbs contact and goes off the glass, 34-29.  Outlaw follows with a great breakup of a lob pass but the Blazers miss.

As pointed out earlier, based on reading about Portland’s scrappy practice, I thought this would be that type of game.  I’ll be back later for the fourth if it’s close.


Revisiting the winless situation how a few teams handle it

November 7, 2007

Earlier this week we discussed a few teams that were 0-3 and now as we enter the second week of the season, a few others have been added to that exclusive club.  Fortunately for some (Isiah Thomas), the Knicks are not one of them.

So how do teams handle the early season struggles? Spirited practices, name-calling, positivity?

Golden State – 0-4 – have allowed 117, 120, 133, 108 in their first four losses, meaning there’s no defensive lockdown period such as the other team going five minutes without a basket.  Example Al Harrington scored 38 points in Utah Saturday night when Davis was 3-of-11.  He scored 19 Tuesday vs. Cleveland but had just 10 and 13 in the other two defeats but point production doesn’t matter if you don’t have anyone running after the hot shooter in the game (Daniel Gibson) down the stretch.

Seattle – 0-4 – Their fourth quarter issues have been well documented and it happened again, the first three quarters were a big swing, the Sonics were down 1, up 13 and up 6 and finally outscored by 12.   They have made 21, 18, 22 and 26 turnovers in their games.  How many of those in the fourth?  only two this time but a whopping 10 in the third.  So what is PJ left to say or do.

To me this is the most telling of anything that he has said “Teams are going to come after us (because of the turnovers),” Carlesimo said. “Our bigs have had trouble delivering passes. We talked about it in practice. It’s been a problem.”

Statistically speaking, he’s correct.  Nick Collison is 6-9 and has six turnovers, Kevin Durant is the same height and has 15, Jeff Green is also 6-9 and has 10 turnovers.  Seven-footer Robert Swift made his first start of the season and had four in 18 minutes.

Portland – 0-3 – They might have one of the hardest ways to open the season with road games in San Antonio, Houston and New Orleans.  They come back for their home opener tonight against the same Hornets team.  Remember guys, keep an eye for out Chris Paul passing to Peja Stojakovic.  Of his 21 assists Tuesday, six led to three-pointers for Stojakovic who had 10.  So how does the coaching staff and Blazers deal with their record, easy a spirited practice. So if the Blazers can practice what they preached in practice, then expect a scrappy game.


Knicks win a home opener, about time and some other Sunday items

November 5, 2007

How long has it been since a Knick team won their home opener?  A little over six years, a time that is so long that Jeff Van Gundy was coaching and Michael Jordan was playing.

It’s so long that none of the central figures in the 97-93 win were remotely close to the scene on October 30, 2001.

For example, Jamal Crawford led the Knicks with 24 points.  The last time the Knicks won their home opener, he was on the injured list, which has since been replaced by the inactive list.

Zach Randolph, who had 15 points and 10 rebounds in his home debut, including a key defensive rebound down the stretch, made his NBA debut for Portland and played one minute in a loss to the Lakers.

Eddy Curry had not even made his debut, that came a night later in 12 minutes off the bench for the Bulls where two of his teammates were Charles Oakley and Greg Anthony.

Stephon Marbury was starting over this time with the Phoenix Suns and scored 14 points in a 98-96 win over the Nuggets.

Isiah Thomas was coaching across the river for the Pacers in New Jersey.  His team blew an 11-point deficit and wilted in the fourth quarter of a 103-97 loss to the Indiana Pacers.

You get the idea.

The quality of play may not have been the greatest but there was enough things to like if you happen to root for the Knicks.

Jamal Crawford – 24 points, 49 in his first two games. The totals in the previous three seasons were 33, 15 and 26.  Might this be a sign of a breakout?  One thing that is certain is he has bulked up and can absorb that contact a little better.

Fourth quarter – 20 points allowed, big defensive rebound by Zach Randolph, who has two doubles-doubles already.

I’m not going to wax poetic about this one.  It’s not Game Seven of a playoff series, it’s game one of 41, game two of 82 but anyone associated with the Knicks will take a 97-93 victory or similar.

From an entertainment standpoint, this game is about a B.  Watching Crawford was exciting, waiting to see if and when the other shoe would drop (a collapse by the Knicks) was interesting and seeing Randolph beat Ryan Gomes for that rebound was nice to see.

I thought the shoe would drop when Eddy Curry forgot that when the shot clock is turned off, all you have to do is pass it out and let the perimeter guys milk it.  D’oh. He picked up an offensive rebound, had his shot blocked and Antoine Walker missed a three-pointer that would have tied it, forced overtime probably and given the Knicks more chances for the shoe to drop.

Those things put a player, especially a new one on the plus side with the tough New York crowd.

As for Minnesota, this is a young team with an interesting collection of players.  Craig Smith is a nice little bruiser down low, I’ve always liked Gomes and of course Al Jefferson is solid, although he has to score more than six points after the first quarter.

The theme with them is forging an identity of a team that is coming to scratch and claw and be successful some of the time (probably 25-30 times this season).

Anyways back to the rest of the association:

Not counting watching the ending of Boston-Toronto and Atlanta-Detroit on the internet, I caught some of that Lakers-Jazz game.

From that, I saw a lot of hustle plays as they pulled away for a 119-109 win over Utah. It was so impressive that even Kobe Bryant got into the act, blocking a dunk attempt by Andrei Kirilenko.  That would have made it a five-point game but it was not a coincidence that minutes later the Lakers went up by double digits.

Had I been hanging out on the couch and not at the Knick game, I probably would have watched the Hawks-Pistons game.  The Hawks were solid Friday against Dallas and for three quarters were the same in Detroit.  We’ve seen that before, the Pistons tease their opponent into thinking they can win and then get it rolling in the fourth.  Of course they may or may not have been jipped by the refs (again that comes down to earning the respect, which teams such as them and the T-Wolves will get by playing hard and competing) .

So how did the nine-point lead evaporate?

Well with 11:27 remaining, Josh Childress puts in a layup for a five-point lead.  Six turnovers and eight missed shots later, they’re down by six.  And the linked text will cover the rest of the details.

It looks like we’ll have to add the Heat and Sonics to the 0-3 club .

The Heat fell 90-88 to the Bobcats and until “Flash comes back, who’s getting the ball in clutch situations.  Here’s who got the ball in the final six minutes when Charlotte almost squandered a 16-point lead.  Shaq got it twice for a dunk and free throws, Chris Quinn then had two free throws, missed a three, Haslem missed a 17-footer, Wright hits a jumper and two from the line but misses a three.  Ricky Davis hits a three and Haslem gets another crack.  I’m sure Pat Riley is eagerly anticipating me writing a post where Wade is the one, maybe next week in New York.

The Bobcats are 2-0 for the first time and I’m not getting the bubbly just yet. After all, they won the first game against a team who had a player forget what the score was (Maurice Williams) and almost coughed up a 16-point lead before.  If anything I’d celebrate the final minute on defense because Sam Vincent was obvious in saying our inepxerience showed there.

So how’s PJ doing?  It was another fourth quarter to forget for the 0-3 Sonics.  They haven’t been this bad since 1985-86.  Kevin Durant is obviously good, but those fourth quarters need fixing.  It was 37-25 today in favor of the Clippers and through three games, it is 98-66 in favor of Seattle opponents in the fourth.

It sounds a little frustrating for PJ doesn’t it?

“We need to develop a little more aggression than we have right now, especially in the fourth quarter,” Carlesimo said. “Our defense is lousy, but every game it’s 20-something turnovers and 25 points. It’s just not bad half-court defense. It’s giving up 25 points in transition.”

I won’t tell you what the article contains but you can find out that Durant is averaging four points in the final 12 minutes.

And finally, I can’t believe we’ve gotten this far without discussing the Raptors-Celtics game.  Sounded like fun as it went to overtime and Ray Allen won it with a three-pointer.  Our condolences to Doc Rivers, who had to miss due to his father’s death.  But imagine having those three choices to get the shot and none would have been wrong, that’s a nice problem to have.

By the way, I’d have watched that game over the football – even Patriots-Colts.


So you’ve lost your first three games

November 4, 2007

Less than a week into the new season, there are five teams that are 0-3, including three that many project to be in the playoffs.

The teams are as follows:

Washington – @ Indiana, @ Boston and vs. Orlando

Chicago – @ New Jersey, vs. Philadelphia, @ Milwaukee

Golden State – vs. Utah, @ LA Clippers, @ Utah

Two of the teams are not projected to be in the playoffs:

Portland – @ San Antonio, @ New Orleans, @ Houston

Sacramento – @ New Orleans, @ San Antonio, @ Dallas

So what does this mean, is the season doomed?  Off the top of my head I couldn’t tell you but I know where to get the evidence. 

2006-07

Boston – 0-3 finished with 24 wins

Denver – 0-3 finished with 45 wins lost to Spurs in the first round

Dallas – 0-4  finished with 67 wins lost to Warriors in first round

2005-06

Philadelphia 0-3 finished with 38 wins, two games out of the eighth seed

Toronto 0-9 finished with 27 wins

New York 0-5 finished with 23 wins

Atlanta 0-9 finished with 26 wins

Orlando 0-3 finished with 36 wins

2004-05

Cleveland 0-3 finished with 42 wins one behind the eighth-place Sixers

Chicago 0-9 finished with 47 wins, lost to Washington in the first round

Atlanta 0-4 finished with 13 wins

New Orleans 0-8 finished with 18 wins

Memphis 0-4 finished with 45 wins, lost to Phoenix in the first round

Golden State 0-6 finished with 34 wins

Sacramento 0-3 finished with 50 wins, lost to Seattle in the first round

2003-04

Miami 0-7 finished with 42 wins, lost to Indiana in the second round

Atlanta 0-3 finished with 28 wins

Cleveland 0-5 finished with 35 wins, one behind the eighth place Celtics

So in the last four seasons, it happened 18 times and six times team recovered.  That being said, how are these teams feeling about it

Washington – Their league-worst field goal percentage got worse after a 34.8 showing in the loss to Orlando but they say they’ll be fine:

“We’ll bounce back,” Eddie Jordan said. “If this was three in a row in January, then it wouldn’t be a red flag. But because it is three in a row at the beginning of the season, it stands out. We’re not in a bad way. We feel good, and we’ll bounce back.”

“We’ll find [the offense]. No one is panicking,” Caron Butler said. “We know what this nucleus is capable of, and the coaching staff is great at making changes on the fly. We’ll just have to tweak it a little bit — a tweak here and a tweak there and we’ll get back at it.”

Chicago – Perhaps the recent trade talks and lack of contract extension have factored in.  Ben Gordon was the only starter to reach double figures and it came on a 31-percent shooting night and a 14-turnover night.  The tone from the postgame is considerably different than that from Washington.

Scott Skiles:   “I felt like we were just bored with preseason. But maybe we just weren’t very good.”

Kirk Hinrich:  “We’re not the same team right now.  

Golden State:  The Warriors have allowed 133, 120 and 117.  They have scored 110, 114 and 96.    The first two losses resulted in a lineup change as Al Harrington became a starter and Monta Ellis became a reserve.  That kept Carlos Boozer somewhat quiet but the Jazz guards made plenty of noise.

The mood is not doom and gloom but the knowledge they can’t screw around much longer is apparent:

“We made that crazy run last year, but we can’t afford to get off to an 0-3, 0-4, 0-5 (start),” Warriors forward Matt Barnes said. “No one can afford that. We have to straighten this out somehow. It obviously starts on the defensive end. We’ve got to tighten up our defense, and we’ve just got to win us some games.”

Portland – Putting a rebuilding team on the road against three better teams to start is always difficult.  It can cause many weaknesses to be exposed and while the talent is there, it doesn’t provide them with ample opportunities to prove it.   In the three games, they fell behind by a combined 52 points before halftime.

“The thing I recognize is we have some things to work on — and this road trip showed that,” forward Martell Webster said. “The chemistry on this team is fine — we just have to figure out a way to put together four quarters. I mean, you can see that it takes us being down 15 to 20 points for us to dig down in a stance and start playing people.

Sacramento – I doubt anyone is surprised that the Kings are where they are.  Even with Ron Artest and Mike Bibby, the Kings are expected to be among the league’s worst teams.  Things have fallen so far the Arco Arena did not get a vote in the GM’s poll of the best homecourt advantages.  Their third loss had to make anyone involved with the Kings nautious as they allowed the Mavericks to shoot 65 percent.

“Everybody knows we’ve got a long ways to work and this is just the first three of 82 games,” Mikki Moore said. “But a (butt)-whupping is a butt-whupping. I’m not saying we’re getting used to it, but we’re just trying to keep each other up.”